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1. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
salaboy21 Feb 10, 2011 4:24 PM (in response to cs1)Hi there,
Your question it's pretty common. In my experience you usually end up writing your own interface for your own domain using a technology that your company feels confortable with. For demo usage, or for showing the capabilities of the BPM System you can use the current console. The community tryies to improve the current console, but it's a lot of work.
We surely can create a wiki page to have a rank with a set of the most important features that users consider at the moment of choosing a tools for end users.
What do you think about that? Then based on that rank we can create Jira (Project) Issues or feature request so the community knows what's important.
Cheers
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2. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
cs2 Feb 10, 2011 6:10 PM (in response to salaboy21)(I'm the orig author, I wasn't able to reset my password, the website said I had to wait 24hrs for my next password reset)
That would be great to add more features, but I'm just wondering if that would be out side of the scope of the jBPM project? In my case ideally the console would be a fully developed application that could be customized, but not require significant amounts of developer time.
Thx!
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3. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
bpmn2user Feb 11, 2011 3:00 AM (in response to cs2)Did you try the current console and look at the existing features?
You can create the forms for human tasks using Freemarker(http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/) templates. Freemarker is a template engine to generate HTML pages.
The console (based on https://github.com/heiko-braun/bpm-console/raw/master/doc/Reference.pdf) provides the framework using GWT and REST. This framework gives you the integration with jBPM runtime engine. Having said that, you would need to extend it based on your needs, such providing access to your data model and integarting with any of your custom workitem enhancements.
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4. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
cs2 Feb 11, 2011 3:38 PM (in response to bpmn2user)Yes, I have the jbpm-console demo running and have been able to look at it. The main thing I'm not seeing is how to validate user input on forms (e.g. I need to validate that a user picked a unique login name in a back end database) and how to create and deploy forms in a process. This is due to my lack of understanding of how everything fits together at a rudimentary level -- I'm new to Java. For example, I'm not seeing where the form source is located in the "Evaluation" example in the Eclipse project, or when a user enters some data, where I write the code to validate it and return an error if needed?
Any addtional suggestsions on what to read up on in order to get an inital "hello world" grasp would be great. I'll take a look at the GWT manual as recommended by the bpm-console reference, thank you for that!
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5. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
bpmn2user Feb 13, 2011 4:50 PM (in response to cs2)The form source files for "Evaluation" example, i.e, the templates, are included in the jar file jbpm-gwt-form-5.0.0.jar. Alternatively, you can also deploy them in Guvnor. I will try to post sample code and the steps involved.
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6. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
dekadence Feb 14, 2011 7:46 AM (in response to cs1)Have a look at the screencast from Kris V. on this topic. He shows a simple example of how to upload process definition and user task form templates to guvnor.
http://people.redhat.com/kverlaen/jBPM5-guvnor-integration.swf In order for this to work with the JBPM-console, the process has to declare package: defaultPackage.
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7. Re: Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
cs2 Feb 14, 2011 4:58 PM (in response to dekadence)Thanks for the screen cast! That makes sense.
Little feedback from a newbie: one of the things that I've been finding tricky is understanding what the intended way to do things is; for example, I could unzip all the .jars and look for the "Evaluation" example form, but I didn't think that that was the intended workflow, and the screen cast clarified that for me. I realize of course this is just one scenario and it also may be vague since jBPM is often embedded, but it helped me understand the out of the box context.
Hopefully it's not a faux pas to mention another BPM project, but I found this diagram helpful in conveying what the intention was behind all of the components of the Activiti project... but it took a lot of digging to find it:
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8. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
echelon Feb 15, 2011 1:32 AM (in response to dekadence)Hi Matus!
Thank you for sharing the screencast!
I define a process according to the screencast,but i got a prompt( "No diagram associated with process" )when i click "Diagram" in jbpm5.
Could you tell me which config missing?
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9. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
dekadence Feb 15, 2011 6:13 AM (in response to echelon)Hi, did you add the ProcessID-image.png file to the Guvnor defaultPackage? (replace ,,ProcessId" with the actual id of your process, e.g. com.sample.evaluation-image.png). Than rebuild the package in guvnor and you should see the diagram of the process ni the jbpm console.
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10. Advice on using the jBPM console as an end user application
echelon Feb 15, 2011 11:10 AM (in response to dekadence)Thanks Matus! It's ok now.
I hadn't set the package name of ProcessID-image.png.