Hi Petr,

Thank-you for the helpful reply. It seems like this tutorial, Part V. Drools Workbench, begins in the middle of another tutorial. For instance the DRL file in step x, shown in Figure 15.15, references a field that must of been created in a previous tutorial.

Do you know of any other tutorials? Preferably ones that do not depend on previous tutorials and are easy introductions to Guvnor for a beginner?

Respectfully,

Kyle

Petr,

Thank-you again for the helpful reply. I am looking at the following tutorial, https://github.com/eschabell/brms-coolstore-demo  , after reading this post on Eric Schabell's website: http://www.schabell.org/p/jboss-brms-starter-kit.html

The problem is that after downloading the example and changing the init.bat script to reference the jboss-brms-installer-6.0.2.GA-redhat-5.jar from this website and moving that jar into the installs directory the JBoss BRMS starts up.  The problems is when I deploy the project and go to http://localhost:8080/brms-coolstore-demo I receive a 404 error.    I see data relating to the shopping cart application for instance. It looks like everything works accept that the website is not actually deployed or deployed at that location or something.

This tutorial makes reference to the more proprietary red hat website: https://access.redhat.com and to versions of software that are already obsolete. Do you are anyone else reading this have any recommendations for getting this tutorial to work? It appears to work but then going to the URL on the localhost results in a 404.

I hope this made sense. I should probably start a question on how to run this tutorial as it has many factors to consider.

Finally, this tutorial is bad if one does not have a Red Hat subscription as downloading or even creating an account on access.redhat.com requires some type of software license which I do not have.

Respectfully,

Kyle

Hello Kyle,

 

the documentation is primarily meant as on overview of the Workbench features and it can't be considered as a tutorial. If you are looking for basic introduction into how to use Workbench/BRMS you can take a look at awesome posts by Eric Schabell http://www.schabell.org/.

 

Several videos are also available at project pages http://drools.org/learn/video.html.

 

Petr

 

 

Hi Petr,

Thank-you again for the helpful reply. It looks like most of Eric Schabell's tutorials are made for the more proprietary access.redhat subscription members. Can you explain which part of the free jboss BRMS web-interface is Guvnor? I am racking my brain looking for information on how to use Guvnor. I keep finding all of this confusing information. I am not sure a) where exactly Guvnor is in the JBoss BRMS, b) when I am using Guvnor in a BRMS application, or c) where to find up to date relevant information on Guvnor.

Also, this would be very helpful if you or someone else could explain where Guvnor is in the following simple BRMS tutorials from this website, jboss.org:

1. http://www.jboss.org//quickstarts/brms/helloworld-drl/index.html
2. http://www.jboss.org//quickstarts/brms/helloworld-brms/index.html

Thank-you for the previous help Petr. I sincerely appreciate it.

Respectfully,

Petr

Hello Petr,

Thank-you, Thank-you X 10 for the helpful and timely reply to my questions. This helps me understand a lot of what I need to grasp.

Also, if I want to use and/or lean about Guvnor in more depth is there a way I can install Guvnor on its own or is Guvnor now the 'business central' web application? I was thinking that since I asked the question above on a JBoss BRMS forum that I may of obtained a more JBMS focused answer. However, it does show that Guvnor technology is indeed included in the JBoss BRMS application as can be seen from this page: http://www.jboss.org/products/brms/community/ So, is there a more pure form of Guvnor available I guess is my question in this paragraph.

>>>>>> please let us know so we can fix it

I did have some problems with both tutorials, but I was able to resolve them and get them working. I found that I could run the examples after modifying the pom.xml file. I had to change this line to a newer version: <version>6.0.2.GA-redhat-5</version>. Before it was trying to download a dependency that was of a version that is not on the corresponding website from the settings.xml file that this pom.xml file calls. That website from settings.xml is: http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all The pom.xml file that comes with the quickstarts originally has this line: <version>6.0.2.GA-redhat-3</version>.

I also had to change this line: <version.jboss.bom.brms>6.0.2.GA-redhat-3</version.jboss.bom.brms>. This was a simple edit. I just changed the 3 to a 5 because version 5 is in the maven.repository.redhat.com website.

>>>>>> You can also look at the Getting Started Guide in product documentation (it should be available even without the subscription)

It is. Thank-you for the link.

Thank-you again for the help. I am going to try to get the other 'Cool Store' demo running. I will try to get you some debug information soon.

Respectfully,

Kyle Smith